The Dev time on this AVN is so slow! Honestly one of the slowest I have ever seen. Roughly 9 months and counting...
If I was backing the dev on Patreon I would be so angry that its taking to long. I would think he is deliberately dragging out the Dev time just to milk his Patreons...
I have never been so thankful I refuse to use Patreon.
I think it's too early to say hes milking, development takes a long time. But i agree otherwise, ive been waiting for 0.6 for what seems like forever lol. Barely remember the game at this point.
On one hand, that's a good excuse to start over from the start. On the other, should I have to do that just to stay engaged?
As for the milking thing: Why should I pay anything for a product that isn't finished yet? It's like going to a clothing store and buying the left leg of some pants... why would I do that? Typically you don't even see a product in stores for sale until its finished.
It's like Gaming companies releasing buggy games and then patching them on day one, or within the first week. Why do they do that? Because they know their customers will buy it anyway.
Lastly: 9 months is too early to call it milking? When is it enough then? 12 months? What if you're contributing the maximum amount, like $150 a month? In 9 months that's like $1350 with nothing to show for it.
Now lets pretend that the pretend Dev has 200 people supporting him for an average of $10 each for 9 months. Thats $18,000!
Now lets pretend the fella ghosts after 9 months of just posting the occasional pic or comment...
This might be a good moment to clarify that the game is not a finished product, and no one is required to pay for anything. Version 0.7 is currently in development, and once it's released, 0.6 will become the new public version on Itch. Which is free.
I don't normally mind conjecture, as everyone is free to have an opinion. You might dislike Patreon for any reason, and that’s alright. But that’s also where we post status updates about the game and its development, including information on why 0.7 is taking longer. The TLDR is: more content and certain scenes per update.
We’re not going to force content in, so reaching certain scenes simply takes what it takes.
Updates will be released when they’re ready. Cheers.
Why not post updates regarding the AVNs progress here on Itch? Why not post the 0.7 version here on Itch as soon as its finished instead of waiting for the 0.8 version to be finished and up on Patreon?
The answer is the same answer as always: Money. Greed. To pull in customers using sites like Itch as advertising.
You could even put it behind a paywall here on Itch. I've seen other Devs do it. They put up the latest version for an amount similar to their Patreons at a reasonable tier and then slowly reduce the price on a weekly basis until it goes F2P.
Now I'm willing and happy to agree paying customers need to be offered something extra. But I don't agree that no information should be shared regarding delays or expected release dates here on Itch.
I mean, they aren't obligated too and most devs I've seen that have public releases on itch don't have a paid version on itch with it, it's almost always patron or subscribe star, plus with patron you can just pay the small amount and then stop after you download the files if you really want to, same difference than doing it here just a small bit less convenient. I haven't played the game yet so everything I'm saying isn't even related to release time or quality, just of what is the norm. Also money? yeah of course a huge drive is money. It takes a lot of time effort and cash to make these games/projects. Greed? honestly not sure yet but yes of course itch is used as advertising. It works and is simple, but it's also in combination with itch being a necessary place to show your work and hope your name sticks. like do you think most NSFW artists/game makers do it for the good of the world? you expect far more from these usually solo devs on itch.
Edit: just did a super quick look at the patron and there devlogs and pictures and discussions and whatnot every few days it seems so they definitely aren't ghosting. although I do understand the frustration for the wait time I would probably give benefit of the doubt that both the update is going to be good and also theres probably things going on irl that are occupying them but i'm not sure so thats a bit in the air for me as I didn't look super deep into it.
Insanely short atm, has a solid story line but the last bit kind of had me "meh". Model/art is probably the best Ive ever seen tho. I did a 2nd play through and it seemed if you answer wrongly then you just get a few options/scenes removed but didnt really add much imo.
Would of liked to see more of the existing characters lore open up rather than have a whole section of the club storyline but maybe itll play a bigger role later. Sophie, Livia, and Kate are the only ones I was interested in - didnt see any action/major developements from them.
0.6.1 is on the Zone. I despise Patreon as well, so I buy whatever version from here, and then get latest release (if necessary) from the Zone. Providing it hasn't been abandoned before it's finished.
The Zone is? never heard of that before. I don't despise Patreon rather than I would prefer not using it and buy the game here directly, at it's current version. But still, nice knowing that it is still in development.
I loved the game, I liked the story and the graphics, I thought there were no updates due to the comments, but I see that there are and I'm very excited to know what will happen next, success and thanks for the game.
Just amazing graphics and story. Gives you the sensation of talking to a girl for the first time, that excitement and rush which usually dont happen in games.
I think I am at a point where i would be okay to pay, but I can't pay on steam because this is the only place i know where i can still buy these games despite being more than old enough. It's my countries problem.
I try to be a tiny bit clever and not mention more.
Its been a while since I've played a V/N with this amount of in depth story and freedom that keeps me hanging on the edge of my seat... Honestly, i'm really looking forward to seeing where this is going... Keep up the good work. ill be sure to check out your guys patreon. I cant wait for more.
how do i get photo number 9 for Becca on ember? tried every option and couldn't figure it out. also couldn't figure out how to get the last three photos of Bree and the 11th photo of Eve in the my photos for the camera.
do Nina's texts work for you in the CH. 5 free play. they don't show for me. I'm thinking i might have accidentally ignored her when she was unlocked while i was unlocking all her images, but I'm unsure if it's that or a bug.
Holy crud, yeah it is. Dr. Pinkcake puts out HUGE episodes in that time period (okay, it's pushing on a little over a year now) This game doesn't have much content for that kind of time span.
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when is the next update going to release?? this is genuenly my fav nsfw game by far!!
a few weeks ago they said its around 80% done so it shouldnt be far
hopefully this project was not abandoned, still waiting at least for one more day of this story
It's not abandoned, update comes out soon. At least thats what they said on Patreon
ok thx
this game going to replace my no.1 which is BaDIK if it's going the right way. So much potential.
can't wait for Steam version to release, I just can't
When she asks you earlier that day what you are looking foreward to, tell her the option "get laid". it will unlock the dialog "wanna find out?"
The Dev time on this AVN is so slow! Honestly one of the slowest I have ever seen. Roughly 9 months and counting...
If I was backing the dev on Patreon I would be so angry that its taking to long. I would think he is deliberately dragging out the Dev time just to milk his Patreons...
I have never been so thankful I refuse to use Patreon.
I think it's too early to say hes milking, development takes a long time. But i agree otherwise, ive been waiting for 0.6 for what seems like forever lol. Barely remember the game at this point.
Same here. Can't remember much.
On one hand, that's a good excuse to start over from the start. On the other, should I have to do that just to stay engaged?
As for the milking thing: Why should I pay anything for a product that isn't finished yet? It's like going to a clothing store and buying the left leg of some pants... why would I do that? Typically you don't even see a product in stores for sale until its finished.
It's like Gaming companies releasing buggy games and then patching them on day one, or within the first week. Why do they do that? Because they know their customers will buy it anyway.
Lastly: 9 months is too early to call it milking? When is it enough then? 12 months? What if you're contributing the maximum amount, like $150 a month? In 9 months that's like $1350 with nothing to show for it.
Now lets pretend that the pretend Dev has 200 people supporting him for an average of $10 each for 9 months. Thats $18,000!
Now lets pretend the fella ghosts after 9 months of just posting the occasional pic or comment...
See why I am so wary of Patreon and milking?
Through all of this you know one thing that compels me to support a dev?
Regular, reliable, sustainable and SHORT dev times.
This might be a good moment to clarify that the game is not a finished product, and no one is required to pay for anything. Version 0.7 is currently in development, and once it's released, 0.6 will become the new public version on Itch. Which is free.
I don't normally mind conjecture, as everyone is free to have an opinion. You might dislike Patreon for any reason, and that’s alright. But that’s also where we post status updates about the game and its development, including information on why 0.7 is taking longer. The TLDR is: more content and certain scenes per update.
We’re not going to force content in, so reaching certain scenes simply takes what it takes.
Updates will be released when they’re ready. Cheers.
Why not post updates regarding the AVNs progress here on Itch? Why not post the 0.7 version here on Itch as soon as its finished instead of waiting for the 0.8 version to be finished and up on Patreon?
The answer is the same answer as always: Money. Greed. To pull in customers using sites like Itch as advertising.
You could even put it behind a paywall here on Itch. I've seen other Devs do it. They put up the latest version for an amount similar to their Patreons at a reasonable tier and then slowly reduce the price on a weekly basis until it goes F2P.
Now I'm willing and happy to agree paying customers need to be offered something extra. But I don't agree that no information should be shared regarding delays or expected release dates here on Itch.
I mean, they aren't obligated too and most devs I've seen that have public releases on itch don't have a paid version on itch with it, it's almost always patron or subscribe star, plus with patron you can just pay the small amount and then stop after you download the files if you really want to, same difference than doing it here just a small bit less convenient. I haven't played the game yet so everything I'm saying isn't even related to release time or quality, just of what is the norm. Also money? yeah of course a huge drive is money. It takes a lot of time effort and cash to make these games/projects. Greed? honestly not sure yet but yes of course itch is used as advertising. It works and is simple, but it's also in combination with itch being a necessary place to show your work and hope your name sticks. like do you think most NSFW artists/game makers do it for the good of the world? you expect far more from these usually solo devs on itch.
Edit: just did a super quick look at the patron and there devlogs and pictures and discussions and whatnot every few days it seems so they definitely aren't ghosting. although I do understand the frustration for the wait time I would probably give benefit of the doubt that both the update is going to be good and also theres probably things going on irl that are occupying them but i'm not sure so thats a bit in the air for me as I didn't look super deep into it.
The renders are so good, as is the story.
Love the little details like Mia breathing as you watch her in 6.
Take my money and keep it up!
Is it possible to crowd source bits of the rendering to help out?
когда выйдет обновление?
No harem?
Insanely short atm, has a solid story line but the last bit kind of had me "meh". Model/art is probably the best Ive ever seen tho. I did a 2nd play through and it seemed if you answer wrongly then you just get a few options/scenes removed but didnt really add much imo.
Would of liked to see more of the existing characters lore open up rather than have a whole section of the club storyline but maybe itll play a bigger role later. Sophie, Livia, and Kate are the only ones I was interested in - didnt see any action/major developements from them.
Can I get the only logical reason why I was banned on discord ?
Abandoned?
I wanted to know that too, the story was not so bad and I found myself wanting more today.
on patreon there is a version 0.6 (maybe even 0.6.1) and soon 0.7 possible patreon release, so not abbadoned (as i see)
Is there a different version available if you purchase this game here? II don't want to use Patreon.
here is older version, on patreon you can have 0.6 version but not for free (sub required)
Thanks, precisely it is Patreon I don't want to deal with, still, thanks for the info.
0.6.1 is on the Zone. I despise Patreon as well, so I buy whatever version from here, and then get latest release (if necessary) from the Zone. Providing it hasn't been abandoned before it's finished.
The Zone is? never heard of that before. I don't despise Patreon rather than I would prefer not using it and buy the game here directly, at it's current version. But still, nice knowing that it is still in development.
F95
I loved the game, I liked the story and the graphics, I thought there were no updates due to the comments, but I see that there are and I'm very excited to know what will happen next, success and thanks for the game.
Wow this is fantastic. Easily the best adult visual novel I've ever played
Just amazing graphics and story. Gives you the sensation of talking to a girl for the first time, that excitement and rush which usually dont happen in games.
I played 0.5 this good, want to continue but not as patrion, cant trust thats shit again. but gladly buy it for 20$-30$ on steam
No worries, you'll be able to grab your own copy on Steam eventually when there's more content. :)
thx my friend
What does that mean?, you add more here right?
I think I am at a point where i would be okay to pay, but I can't pay on steam because this is the only place i know where i can still buy these games despite being more than old enough. It's my countries problem.
I try to be a tiny bit clever and not mention more.
Its been a while since I've played a V/N with this amount of in depth story and freedom that keeps me hanging on the edge of my seat... Honestly, i'm really looking forward to seeing where this is going... Keep up the good work. ill be sure to check out your guys patreon. I cant wait for more.
What engine or program do you use to create the characters?Please tell me, I also want to do something similar
most likely Ren'Py
Well yes, but that is the engine for making novel games, Im referring to the one they used to create the characters.
I believe its DAZ 3D check out f95zone . to (remove the space) and ask there for some advice you can also find more games like this on that site
We use Daz3D and Blender. :)
este juego es muy bueno, ojala sigan sacando contenido y puedan ponerlo en español una pena andar traduciendo todo el tiempo se hace pesado
will there be no more free updates?
No worries, there will be free updates.
Any idea when? Love this game, but I can't follow a game with one update per year. I'll be dead by the time it's finished.
No estimation when exactly, sorry. 0.6 will become the new public version right after 0.7 releases. Hang in there. :)
how do i get photo number 9 for Becca on ember? tried every option and couldn't figure it out. also couldn't figure out how to get the last three photos of Bree and the 11th photo of Eve in the my photos for the camera.
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Also tried every option... even tried a new run but nothing. Maybe something needs to be activated?
do Nina's texts work for you in the CH. 5 free play. they don't show for me. I'm thinking i might have accidentally ignored her when she was unlocked while i was unlocking all her images, but I'm unsure if it's that or a bug.
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Nope they dont
edit: my final post cause I got suspended for no reason lol!!! bye guys
dang. seems like some of the scenes and Nina's chat are bugged in some way and aren't activating.
Sounds like you might have accidentally ignored her or chosen a route that ends badly with her. I'll have it checked just in case. :)
¿Está en español
I'm following the guide and some choices get grayed out, what gives man?? I wanna call the MILF Mommy😫
i had the same problem its something i did i think i chose a certain drink i cant remember much gonna replay this again myself
A progress report would be appreciated.
Patreon lil bro
I don't use it.
Well, there was a 10 month gap between v0.4.3 and v0.5, so maybe June of 2025 will see this updated?
10 months? Ooof! Dats a long arsed time!
Holy crud, yeah it is. Dr. Pinkcake puts out HUGE episodes in that time period (okay, it's pushing on a little over a year now) This game doesn't have much content for that kind of time span.
Is this game dead?
From the looks of things, it seems like progress on 0.7 has been mentioned 2 days ago on Patreon.
We won't see 0.6 here until 0.7 releases for Patreons.
Yess Is very dead☠️
It's not dead, the dev team is just insanely slow
I really enjoy this game, i like where its leading. Im ready for the next update